Supertraining

Linda,
Excellent and absolutely correct! I COULD NOT AGREE MORE! Thank you
for articulating my nearly identical thoughts. One of your best posts.

Thanks,
W.G. Johnson
Ubermensch Sports Consultancy





--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Linda Schaefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok at this point I'd like to return to a point in the original posting.
> 
> The question was why her coach would insist on a longer recovery
period than she previously was required to use and a secondary
question of why a personal trainer so adamantly opposed to her very
successful coach's teaching.
> 
> The question of recovery when working with heavier sets and from the
sound of her program, the original poster is indeed working with
challenging weights and requires more rest than the personal trainer
expects.  Perhaps the personal trainer in question is not familiar
with heavier ends of periodized programs, where you NEED more rest in
order to get the reps you are asked to perform.  In any event, the
personal trainer should be strongly cautioned that they should NOT
meddle in an athlete's program where they are being directly coached
and particularly enjoying success.....being asked a question is NOT
license to try to talk down the coach! and the statement made shows
the ignorance of the PT in question specifically!
> 
> Generally speaking, in my experience as a powerlifter, the recovery
for a heavy set on the high end of a periodization program can be from
3 to 10 minutes, depending on the size, conditioning, and external
fatiguing factors on the athlete.  Yes, it's highly individual, and
it's also likely the original poster's coach has carefully tailored
her rest interval to that 2.5 minutes because she achieves her lifts
in that rest interval usage and is succeeding in her goals and sport.
 Some elite lifters take less time.  Some very large males take that
10 minutes...lol.  It's a matter of careful work to understand your
own recovery status too, this is not something you learn without a lot
of time and understanding. 
> 
> I myself use a guideline of 5 minutes for my heavier end of program
sets, because I also have to keep in mind I must meet eventually the
requirement of sitting and waiting between attempts on the platform. 
I'm very careful to stay warm between the sets and attempts too.  If
I'm having a very good energy day though, I might cut the rest to 3
minutes.  But I go by the clock, to be very consistent AND be sure I'm
not distracted as we have walking distractions where I lift....lol. 
Living ones.  Might have to answer 4 questions, or spot somebody else
in the middle and make sure I am NOT out of my own training in the
same timeframe!
> 
> However, the question which should also be asked is why other
parties seem intent on trying to reroute a successful athlete with a
VERY effective coach from doing what is WORKING FOR THAT ATHLETE.  The
personal trainer in question CLEARLY does not know what they are
talking about and should NEVER HAVE PRESUMED to overstep and state
unequivocably that her coach is WRONG!  (personally if i had a dime
for every PT who has approached me over the years with gems like "DL
will HURT YOUR BACK" and "Sq will HURT YOUR KNEES" I'd be VERY
WEALTHY....Bill Gates might be getting loans from ME??)
> 
> I guess the rest of my advice would be to not speak to that personal
trainer again lol.  Stay with your coach, who clearly knows you very
well AND is teaching you how to win.  Success cannot be
substituted...and it's funny, when you succeed, you find "experts"
coming out of the woodwork to "coach you" suddenly....sigh.  I still
find there are people out of nowhere who want to "coach me" when it's
quite clear they've never coached a powerlifter in their lives...!  or
worse yet, REALLY want to try to make a bodybuilder out of me...<GROWL>
> 
> Mel once said there is no Grand Unified Theory of training, no One
Program to fit everyone, and your coach clearly knows her sport, and
has you on the right track.  I would suggest in future instead of
asking some random personal trainer the question, ask your coach the
question directly instead.  <grin>  This forum is also useful but
again, you might find you could get 100 answers to your otherwise
simple question...!
> 
> Congratulations to the original poster on your success in kayaking,
may you continue to lift and enjoy it too!
> 
> The Phantom
> aka Linda Schaefer, CMT, CSCS, competing powerlifter
> Denver, Colorado, USA
> 
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:58 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Question - Rest interval between sets?
> 
> 
>   The rest component between sets is a total individual thing. Some
require 
>   more and some require less. The one main component I always use is
one's 
>   composure (mental/physical). It should never become (your workout)
a race against 
>   the clock. Arbitrary time elements, such like the "so called"
popular 30 
>   seconds between sets don't allow for individual recovery factors.
When you are 
>   composed and ready to continue, get after it and don't look ahead
or look 
>   behind. Never ever should your training be ruled by arbitrary set
times between 
>   your exercises. 
> 
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