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[Supertraining] Re: CNS Fatigue an enigma or lack of proper definition? henkra Mon Apr 16 18:03:49 2007

I am sorry for latest contribution in my mouse seems to have wandered
beyond my intentions, but then, it shows an explorative mind or maybe it
is just an Ubermaus.

Maybe my Double Dutch wasn't clear enough, I did not ask anybody to define
the term, it was "let's",  a gentle proposal, not a question or demand.

Until now, nobody has been close to a proper definition, e.g. is CNS to be
distinguished from the periferical nervous system or from the autonomic
nervous system, isn't the hormonal system with the hypothalamus and
pituitary part of, or controlled by CNS?
A few questions to challenge our brains, (at least it challenges mine)
Is chronic fatigue syndrome also CNS fatigue?
Is CNS fatigue the same as CNS tiredness?
Is CNS fatigue the same as mental fatigue or
is CNS fatigue lack of motivation(drive)

One fool can ask more questions than a hundred wise men can answer, that
is for sure.But since there are more than hunderd people on this list,
maybe that might help.

By the way, English is not our second language, it's German.

Henk Kraaijenhof
Amstelveen
Holland

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Leave it to a Dutch man, speaking English as a second language, to ask
> us to define our terms, something I have asked for on a number of
> occasions, so I might fully understand the point trying to be made.
> Defining our terms is essential to accurate communication. So much so
> that Wittgenstein's early philosophy was largely based on it:
>
> The early Wittgenstein is epitomized in his Tractatus
> Logico-Philosophicus. By showing the application of modern logic to
> metaphysics, VIA LANGUAGE,(emphasis mine), he provided new insights
> into the relations between world, thought and language and thereby
> into the nature of philosophy.
>
> - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
>
> Thank you Mr. Kraaijenhof for reminding us of the need for greater
> intellectual precision in addition to providing us with some quit
> interesting data on the CNS.
>
> W.G. Johnson
> Ubermensch Sports Consultancy
> San Diego, CA.
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Henk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Central nervous system fatigue: an enigma or lack of proper definition?
>>
>> CNS fatigue: how many time have I read that term in the messages this
>> group.
>>
>> But did anybody ever wonder what the central nervous system is?
>>
>> Just a quick look at Wikipedia: The central nervous system (CNS)
> represents
>> the largest part of the nervous
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_system>  system, including the
> brain
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain>  and the spinal cord
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_cord> .
>>
>> Spinal cord <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_cord>
>>
>> Brain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain>
>>
>> Brain stem <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_stem>
>>
>> Rhombencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombencephalon>
>>
>> Pons <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pons> , Cerebellum
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum> , Medulla oblongata
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medulla_oblongata>
>>
>> Mesencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesencephalon>
>>
>>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectum> Tectum,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_peduncle> Cerebral peduncle,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretectum> Pretectum,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesencephalic_duct> Mesencephalic duct
>>
>>  Prosencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosencephalon>
>>
>> Diencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diencephalon>
>>
>> Epithalamus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithalamus> , Thalamus
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus> , Hypothalamus
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus> , Subthalamus
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subthalamus> , Pituitary
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland>  gland, Pineal gland
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland> , Third
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_ventricle>  ventricle
>>
>> Telencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telencephalon>
>>
>> Rhinencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinencephalon> , Amygdala
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala> , Hippocampus
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus> , Neocortex
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex> , Lateral ventricles
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_ventricles>
>>
>> Looking at this definition "fatigue of the spinal cord" or
>> "fatigue/exhaustion of the hypöthalamus-pituitary gland" or fatigue
> of the
>> "autonomic nervous system' could also be called central nervous
> fatigue, or
>> do we just mean "fatigue of the brain", "fatigue of the neocortex" or
>> "fatigue of the motor cortex"? Is the old term "neurasthenia" of
>> "psychasthenia"  the same as central nervous fatigue.
>>
>> Before we throw this term around let's first define what we really
> mean, no
>> miracle nobody comes up with a solution for a problem that is so ill
> defined
>> as this one.
>>
>> Henk Kraaijenhof
>> Amstelveen
>> Holland
>