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Henk,

I can't answer those specific questions but my guess is that central 
fatigue only occurs during high-stress physical activity, not while 
at rest. That's only a guess though. See my other post for more 
detail.

Hey, you're not into the nude gym in Heteren are you?

"Dutch Gym to Introduce 'Naked Sunday'"

http://tinyurl.com/2lpdzy

I hopy you tell them not to allow the squat!

Paul Rogers
Gympie, Australia

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am sorry for latest contribution in my mouse seems to have 
wandered
> beyond my intentions, but then, it shows an explorative mind or 
maybe it
> is just an Ubermaus.
> 
> Maybe my Double Dutch wasn't clear enough, I did not ask anybody to 
define
> the term, it was "let's",  a gentle proposal, not a question or 
demand.
> 
> Until now, nobody has been close to a proper definition, e.g. is 
CNS to be
> distinguished from the periferical nervous system or from the 
autonomic
> nervous system, isn't the hormonal system with the hypothalamus and
> pituitary part of, or controlled by CNS?
> A few questions to challenge our brains, (at least it challenges 
mine)
> Is chronic fatigue syndrome also CNS fatigue?
> Is CNS fatigue the same as CNS tiredness?
> Is CNS fatigue the same as mental fatigue or
> is CNS fatigue lack of motivation(drive)
> 
> One fool can ask more questions than a hundred wise men can answer, 
that
> is for sure.But since there are more than hunderd people on this 
list,
> maybe that might help.
> 
> By the way, English is not our second language, it's German.
> 
> Henk Kraaijenhof
> Amstelveen
> Holland
> 
> =================
> 
> Leave it to a Dutch man, speaking English as a second language, to 
ask
> > us to define our terms, something I have asked for on a number of
> > occasions, so I might fully understand the point trying to be 
made.
> > Defining our terms is essential to accurate communication. So 
much so
> > that Wittgenstein's early philosophy was largely based on it:
> >
> > The early Wittgenstein is epitomized in his Tractatus
> > Logico-Philosophicus. By showing the application of modern logic 
to
> > metaphysics, VIA LANGUAGE,(emphasis mine), he provided new 
insights
> > into the relations between world, thought and language and thereby
> > into the nature of philosophy.
> >
> > - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
> >
> > Thank you Mr. Kraaijenhof for reminding us of the need for greater
> > intellectual precision in addition to providing us with some quit
> > interesting data on the CNS.
> >
> > W.G. Johnson
> > Ubermensch Sports Consultancy
> > San Diego, CA.
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Henk" <henkra@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Central nervous system fatigue: an enigma or lack of proper 
definition?
> >>
> >> CNS fatigue: how many time have I read that term in the messages 
this
> >> group.
> >>
> >> But did anybody ever wonder what the central nervous system is?
> >>
> >> Just a quick look at Wikipedia: The central nervous system (CNS)
> > represents
> >> the largest part of the nervous
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_system>  system, including 
the
> > brain
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain>  and the spinal cord
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_cord> .
> >>
> >> Spinal cord <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_cord>
> >>
> >> Brain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain>
> >>
> >> Brain stem <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_stem>
> >>
> >> Rhombencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombencephalon>
> >>
> >> Pons <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pons> , Cerebellum
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum> , Medulla oblongata
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medulla_oblongata>
> >>
> >> Mesencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesencephalon>
> >>
> >>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectum> Tectum,
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_peduncle> Cerebral 
peduncle,
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretectum> Pretectum,
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesencephalic_duct> Mesencephalic 
duct
> >>
> >>  Prosencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosencephalon>
> >>
> >> Diencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diencephalon>
> >>
> >> Epithalamus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithalamus> , Thalamus
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus> , Hypothalamus
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus> , Subthalamus
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subthalamus> , Pituitary
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland>  gland, Pineal 
gland
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland> , Third
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_ventricle>  ventricle
> >>
> >> Telencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telencephalon>
> >>
> >> Rhinencephalon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinencephalon> , 
Amygdala
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala> , Hippocampus
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus> , Neocortex
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex> , Lateral ventricles
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_ventricles>
> >>
> >> Looking at this definition "fatigue of the spinal cord" or
> >> "fatigue/exhaustion of the hypöthalamus-pituitary gland" or 
fatigue
> > of the
> >> "autonomic nervous system' could also be called central nervous
> > fatigue, or
> >> do we just mean "fatigue of the brain", "fatigue of the 
neocortex" or
> >> "fatigue of the motor cortex"? Is the old term "neurasthenia" of
> >> "psychasthenia"  the same as central nervous fatigue.
> >>
> >> Before we throw this term around let's first define what we 
really
> > mean, no
> >> miracle nobody comes up with a solution for a problem that is so 
ill
> > defined
> >> as this one.
> >>
> >> Henk Kraaijenhof
> >> Amstelveen
> >> Holland
> >
>