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[Supertraining] Re: Overhead Squat Progress Dan Partelly Fri Jul 11 05:26:57 2008

Squats are not rocket science. Old school, time tested approaches ,  
and commitment to a basic program, not rushing the loads, a  will to
do correct form, even with helpers at first, will always give results
in learning the exercise. 


After all, once upon a time, we used to defecate in the ATG squat
position. Now it seems that half of the world finds this position 
very arcane.

Dan Partelly
Oradea, Romania 




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chad Scheitel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> People shift their weight forward onto the ball of the
> foot because their glutes are not strong enough to
> push the heel down when in the extreme position.  If
> want to test this just have someone do a wall sit with
> their legs at 90 degrees.  People obviously will not
> have "ankle flexibility" issues at this joint angle
> but they will still shift their weight to the front of
> the foot and lift the heel up when they become
> fatigued.  This is because they want to use their
> stronger quads and not use the weaker tired glutes.
> 
> Oh and one more thing, what kind of "flexibility" is
> everyone talking about??  Many people may have great
> passive flexibility in all of the joints you are
> talking about, but once you ask them to do a movement
> they are unable to relax and contract the appropriate
> muscles at the appropriate times unabling them to do
> the motion you are talking about (an Overhead Squat in
> this case).  Developing these kinds of abilities are a
> lot more complex than just having someone do static
> stretching for the muscle groups talked about.  
> 
> Chad Scheitel, MA, CSCS
> Minneapolis, MN
>  
> --- Bill Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I said it has nothing to do with ankle flexibility.
> > It could be numerous issues including flexibility in
> > the hips or hamstrings, the length of the femur in
> > relation to the torso, stance width, foot position
> > and bar placement. 
> >    
> >   Bill Ryan
> >   Havertown, Pa
> > 
> > "Smith, Stephen (Health Sciences)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> >           If I am not mistaken individuals usually
> > place a board (or some other
> > device) under their heels because they cannot squat
> > without the heels
> > coming off of the ground. If that doesn't have
> > something to do with
> > flexibility then could you please elaborate as to
> > why? I was certified
> > through USAW and was specifically taught by Leo
> > Totten and Paul
> > Fleischer that the board does not fix the problem
> > and the problem is a
> > lack of flexibility. Most of Olympic lifting can't
> > adequately be done
> > with excellent flexibility. So could you please
> > elaborate on the post
> > that it has nothing to do with flexibility.
> > 
> > Thank you kindly,
> > Steve Smith, ABD, CSCS, USAW
> > Lynchburg, VA
>