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[Supertraining] Re: Marathon Training Tips Jon Haddan Fri Jul 11 21:12:15 2008
Notwithstanding the precise definition attempted by Daniels (and others who
have different precise definitions), most real world runners call anything
faster than an easy recovery run and slower than a hard workout or race pace
run a tempo run. It is a comfortable pace that they can keep for a
given distance. It isnt limited to 4 miles distance. They even use the
term hard tempo run to mean one that is simply at a faster pace than normal
or one that ends with the pace picking up in the last half of the run.
Extending the distance of your individual tempo pace run is a common training
method. It is simply not as precise as some would like you to believe,
but that does not mean it does not produce benefits.
Jon Haddan
Irvine, CA
--- On Mon, 5/26/08, bobjjdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: bobjjdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: Marathon Training Tips
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:07 PM
--- In Supertraining@ yahoogroups. com, "W.G. 'Bill' Johnson"
<ubermenschsports@ ...> wrote:
>
> Relevant to recent discussions:
>
> What's The Best Way To Train For A Marathon?
>
>
http://www.runnersw orld.com/ article/0, 7120,s6-238- 244-255-12021- 0,00.html
>
The comment from the above post is typical of the confusing/erroneous
information published in Runners World.
"6. Extend your tempo-run distance
Tempo runs were born as four-mile efforts, propounded by coaching
genius Jack Daniels, Ph.D. Then another genius coach, Joe Vigil,
Ph.D., began asking Deena Kastor to hold the tempo pace
longereventually up to 12 miles. He got Meb Keflezighi to 15. Result?
Two Olympic Marathon medals. Gradually extend your tempo runs, slowing
by a few seconds per mile from your four-mile pace. "The longer the
tempo run workout you can sustain, the greater the dividends down the
road," says Vigil."
What is not mentioned in the above is that Daniels defined tempo runs
as runs at LT (Lactate Threshold)pace. It was and still is stated by
many that LT equates to 15k/10 mile race pace. So how could anybody
run 12 or 16 miles at "tempo" pace unless the definition of Daniels
tempo pace has changed or the term tempo pace is very subjective which
makes it meaningless as training advice.
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