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[Supertraining] Re: Marathon Training Tips Jon Haddan Fri Jul 11 21:12:15 2008

Notwithstanding the precise definition attempted by Daniels (and others who 
have different precise definitions), most real world runners call anything 
faster than an easy recovery run and slower than a hard workout or race pace 
run a “tempo run.”  It is a comfortable pace that they can keep for a 
given distance.  It isn’t limited to 4 miles distance. They even use the 
term “hard tempo run” to mean one that is simply at a faster pace than normal 
or one that ends with the pace picking up in the last half of the run. 

Extending the distance of your individual tempo pace run is a common training 
method.  It is simply not as precise as some would like you to believe, 
but that does not mean it does not produce benefits. 

Jon Haddan
Irvine, CA 
 
--- On Mon, 5/26/08, bobjjdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: bobjjdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Supertraining] Re: Marathon Training Tips
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:07 PM

    
            --- In Supertraining@ yahoogroups. com, "W.G. 'Bill' Johnson"

<ubermenschsports@ ...> wrote:

>

> Relevant to recent discussions:

> 

> What's The Best Way To Train For A Marathon?

> 

>

http://www.runnersw orld.com/ article/0, 7120,s6-238- 244-255-12021- 0,00.html

> 

The comment from the above post is typical of the confusing/erroneous

information  published in Runners World.

"6. Extend your tempo-run distance



Tempo runs were born as four-mile efforts, propounded by coaching

genius Jack Daniels, Ph.D. Then another genius coach, Joe Vigil,

Ph.D., began asking Deena Kastor to hold the tempo pace

longer—eventually up to 12 miles. He got Meb Keflezighi to 15. Result?

Two Olympic Marathon medals. Gradually extend your tempo runs, slowing

by a few seconds per mile from your four-mile pace. "The longer the

tempo run workout you can sustain, the greater the dividends down the

road," says Vigil."



What is not mentioned in the above is that Daniels defined tempo runs

as runs at LT (Lactate Threshold)pace. It was and still is stated by

many that LT equates to 15k/10 mile race pace. So how could anybody

run 12 or 16 miles at "tempo" pace unless the definition of Daniels

tempo pace has changed or the term tempo pace is very subjective which

makes it meaningless as training advice. 

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