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[Supertraining] Re: Pain in Hip and L3-L4 ckn1074 Mon Jul 14 07:56:46 2008
Stephen, I went through VERY similar sounding stuff for just about the same amount of time. Back pain was initiated by nothing severe or obvious. I was about 27 years old at the time. No falls, blows, shocks or anything overly strenuous. I went through all sorts of assessments and treatments. X-rays, MRIs, blood exams and neuro exams revealed nothing. I went through about a dozen PTs and chiros, two accupuncturists, various manual treatment methods like Muscle Activation Techniques and Active Release. I got orthotics. I stretched constantly. I even had prolotherapy injections that weren't covered by insurance and they weren't cheap. I didn't just bounce around randomly from treatment to treatment. I stuck w/one treatment at a time and followed the directions of the docs and therapists as I would the word of God. Meanwhile I was reading everything I could find on spines, connective tissue, herniated disks- -everything. What was the result? With each new treatment the back pain would recede for about a week and then return exactly the same. I started developing knee pain, shoulder pain and intermitent elbow pain. I was OBSESSED w/this pain. I all but quit lifting, running and biking. It was misery. I finally started reading the work of Dr. John Sarno and I haven't looked back. His work pertains to the role of emotions in causing "physical" pain. I saw myself and my own traits over and over in his case studies: self-critical, a NEED to achieve certain goals to feel good, "appear to handle stress well," physical activity and athletcs defined me in a large part and those things were taken away by this pain--which exacerbated the pain. It's fascinating stuff and all I can say is that where methods A through Y DID NOT work, method Z did work in an impressive fashion. It may sound odd to some, but emotions, frustrations, repressed feelings--all that sort of negative mental stuff seems to often play a huge role in producing pain where there is no structural injury or disease. I now see these same symptoms and stressors in a lot of people. I hope I don't sound like some UFO nut or anything and I don't have any financial stake in Sarno's books or his work but after suffering through 2 1/2 years of pain and not being able to exercise, I can say that his work did amazing things for me, and it might work for you. His books are "Healing Back Pain," "the Mindbody Connection," and "the Divided Mind." Hope that helps. Kyle Norman Arlington, VA --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr J Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings Stephen, > > The primary innervation of gluteus medius is the L5 nerve which exits at > L4/5 not at L3/4. Thus I doubt that is where your problem arises from. > I have been fouled before by sacral iliac joint problems causing > referral into the hip extensors. However, your chiro should have picked > that up. I can probably help you with a phone call. I will post you my > clinic # so that we can work through a few tests. > > Dr J Michael Smith, MSc., DC. > Whangarei Chiropractic Centre > Whangarei > NEW ZEALAND > > > > > Its been 2.5 years since I first strained my right glut medius after > > doing glut medius work and then doing straight leg dead lifts (warm > > up weight). After a week of my torso leaning over to my left most of > > the time, i felt almost normal but it took a year for me to run. > > 9 months ago i reinjured it doing a no weighted squat (after doing > > trigger point therapy work on my glutes the night before). > > > > Since then i have had chiro work, physio work and more trigger point > > therapy work and had a sports doctor tell me (after a CT scan) that > > they dont know what the problem really is as all they can see is L3- > > L4 has a minor/hair line bulging disc - my symptoms seem too chronic > > for the diagnosis. I think the original glut med injury was actually > > something occuring in L3-L4 now. > > > > I have no flexibility or obesity or fitness issues, i still exercise > > 3 days a week with weights mainly machines but cant get the right > > help or diagnosis from anyone. Ive spent too much money and today > > woke up as stiff as a board, with my torso leaning over to my right > > hip.......I can push my torso back, but i think the gluteal nerve at > > L3-L4 is compressed and hurts and certainly doesnt like it. By the > > way the impingement gets chronic when i try standing up after sitting > > down especially in buckets chairs. > > > > Helpful feedback or advice needed!! > > Sounding like a horror movie at 33y.o. > > Stephen Morris, CSCS > > Sydney, Australia > > > > >
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