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Re: [Supertraining] Motorsports information and experience Keith Hobman Thu Jun 25 04:00:34 2009
Oh. Adherence. Well, this guy is dedicated. Luckily he also had to spend a lot of time training his horses, or he may have overtrained. As it was I didn't feel he was fully recovered when he went back and his placement tended to confirm that. However, his injuries were severe and it is only now, in his second season back, that he is getting back to pre-injury form. Keith Hobman Saskatoon, Canada On 24-Jun-09, at 1:34 PM, Mark Helme wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Thanks for your response, certainly some good advice, and it > confirmed my > initial thoughts. The races last approx 35 mins, and across rough > terrain, > so certainly some mountain biking would be good, I had also planned > to use > some Judo and wrestling, for balance, control and grip strength/ > endurance. > > I particularly like your ideas about routing the heart of the > training in > the athletes home environment, did this have a significant effect on > adherence? conversely did it tempt the athlete into excessive > training? > > One element that is particularly interesting is the balance between > increasing strength and any associated increase mass. Whilst it > isn't a > weight classified sport and increase in mass will have an affect on > the > quads speed. The athlete in question is 17, and needs strength > development, > so there will be inevitable increase in mass. I am relishing the > challenge > of balance the training with coach/athlete perceptions. > > I feel that is sports such as these that provide the greatest > challeneges > but ultimately prove the worth of good strength and conditioning > coaches. > > I welcome more contributions to the discussions. > > Mark Helme > Wakefield, UK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Hobman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Supertraining] Motorsports information and experience > > >> I was asked to assist in the training and rehabilitation of Tyler >> Helmig, a chuckwagon racer, during his return from the sport after a >> catastrophic accident (see >> http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=ece40a30-637a-469c-91b2-64603bb8538a&k=83401 >> ) had injured him severely. Tyler had been working with a local >> physiotherapist, but was unhappy with the suggested program of >> training. He had met me one time and we had hit it off pretty well >> and, anyhow I got the call. >> >> In this case there is a notable difference in that Tyler was dealing >> with a broken leg and pelvis and also had numerous other injuries, >> most pronounced being his shoulder. >> >> Anyhow - chuckwagon racing was entirely new to me. Like you, i looked >> through the video. As always, I was concerned with specificity of >> training. I had used the Supertraining book of our late esteemed >> colleague, Dr. Siff and his movement matrix and triangle of speed, >> strength and endurance in other sport training and it served me well >> here. >> >> So what I did was identify what motor patterns or body movement are >> associated with the sport. In this case kinetic chains were also >> important - how the movement was anchored and transmitted. So I had a >> series of motor patterns identified and then I identified what the >> requirements were for speed, strength and endurance in the movements. >> >> I then set up a series of tests (note that the tests were different >> than the training movements I used) so we could establish a baseline >> and monitor progress. These tests included ROM, strength, speed/ >> strength and endurance using fairly standard tests and resistance >> equipment. However, our program of training avoided the barbell/ >> dumbbell/gym type of training - we only used that for testing. >> >> Mainly because Tyler was a bull-strong, bull-headed cowboy who had >> very little use for being what he called 'gym strong' as opposed to >> 'real world strong'. I could relate as I had trained many wrestlers >> and I knew what he was getting at. Plus Tyler lived on a ranch which >> is a trainers dream! >> >> So I had Tyler doing things like box squats (with logs), caber >> tosses, >> swings, tire flips and more dragging or pulling exercises with logs, >> ropes and chains than you could imagine. For example a very specific >> drill for the 'half mile of hell' was pulling a log across the yard >> by >> facing it, anchoring your feet and pulling a rope hand over hand. >> Plus >> it fit Tyler's personality. >> >> I think you are facing a similar challenge, plus you have the >> situation where your rider is anchored by both feet and hands and >> really has to have a lot of control of moving and positioning his >> body >> in space. I suspect a lot of your training may look like a gymnasts >> training because body control is going to be so crucial. You may also >> find cross-training the endurance component using something like a >> mountain bike may be useful. >> >> Take home message. Analyze the requirements, develop rational tests, >> develop training based on the individual, monitor progress and make >> adjustments based on progress (or lack of it). >> >> Keith Hobman >> Saskatoon, Canada >> >> >> >> On 23-Jun-09, at 12:31 PM, Mark Helme wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have a request for information and guidance. >>> >>> Starting in September, I will be working with a student athlete >>> quadbiker. As you can imagine with such a new sport there is little >>> out there that I can find immediately. My questions is firstly can >>> any of you offer any imperical evidence or reflective experience >>> that might be useful, I would be eternally grateful. >>> >>> Secondly, I would like to start a discussion around how different >>> coaches approach working with these athletes, where do we all start. >>> >>> to kick things of, I have asked the athlete to provide me with a >>> copy of the rules, video footage of the event, I have spoken to him >>> to get his perspective on his goals, and I will discuss possible >>> objectives of the coach. >>> >>> Does anyone else use a different approach, if so I would like to >>> hear your views. >>> >>> Mark Helme >>> Wakefield, UK > > > ------------------------------------ > > Modify/cancel your subscription at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups > > Sign all letters with full name & city of residence if you > wish them to be published! > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >