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Re: bcintbird-pics golden moment M Lancaster Fri Feb 03 23:00:28 2012
Hi Rick et al, Forsman (1999) The Raptors of Europe and the Middle East, distinguishes 7 plumage types which includes adult. Juvenile (first CALENDAR year autumn/2cy spring) to adult which is attained in the 7cy autumn and later. This bird shows no signs of retained juvenile secondaries or primaries (to my eyes) which would make it a 5cy/6cyspring and therefore hatched in 2007. This assumes that Nearctic Golden Eagles follow the same timescale as Western Palearctic and according to Liguori, (thanks Rick) this bird would be classed as a sub-adult which he says is 4-5years old. At least, that is how I assess the photo and the information. Year of life is of course 1 yr less than calendar year AFTER first calendar year. One cannot be one year of age until you achieve 12mths which of course takes place in the second calendar year. Barry M B Lancaster, Currently - Tenerife, Islas Canarias ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Howie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: RE: bcintbird-pics golden moment HI Alistair: it is always nice to see pictures of Golden Eagles and I note your perception at separating it from the various plumages of Bald Eagles which often confuse people. The additional pictures on your website were very nice and present some additional insight into this bird and its age. Which brings me to the subject of jargon. I noted there that you referred to it as a juvenile. The normal use of the term "juvenile" is for a raptor in its first year of life after being born. Based on the lack of white in the primaries (your bird has white at the base of the secondaries) and in the base of tail in your bird plus the mottled body visible in one of your web pictures, I would suggest that it is well on its way towards adult plumage. Typically, the term used would be "sub-adult" with a numeral assigned (where possible) to suggest an age. In this bird, I think it could be a sub-adult lll . This would be age 3 so the bird would be in its 4th year of life. I don't think it has reached class lV. Full adult plumage is normally attained at age 5 when the bird is in its 6th year of life. I must confess that I don't have enough experience to sort out the variations that can occur in the different age classes so I can't be totally sure of placement in class lll or lV. I think sub-adult l or ll birds would have more white tail feathers retained after the partial molt out of the juvenile plumage. Categorization of Bald Eagles is done in the same way. Juvenile is used for the bird in its first year of life and then the various sub-adult terms are used to refer to the remaining plumages before the birds reach adult plumage at age 5 or older. If anyone has any further opinions on this bird, it would be great to hear them. Cheers Rick Howie Kamloops From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alistair B Fraser Sent: February-03-12 8:01 AM To: BCs Interesting Bird Pictures Subject: bcintbird-pics golden moment It is not that this is a superb picture, but as few shots of this locally uncommon bird have been posted to the list, folks may allow it to sneak through. Also discussed at, http://blog.kootenay-lake.ca/?p=4089 Alistair Alistair Fraser Kootenay Lake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BCs Interesting Bird and Nature Pictures" group. To post to this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bcintbird-pics?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BCs Interesting Bird and Nature Pictures" group. To post to this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bcintbird-pics?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BCs Interesting Bird and Nature Pictures" group. To post to this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bcintbird-pics?hl=en-GB.
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