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Re: [Geowanking] Where has all the geowanking gone ? - topic for discussion Andrea Moed Thu Feb 02 05:01:07 2012

As a consumer, or at least, someone not currently building the geo-web or
other geo-systems, the question I'm hoping to see more about is, how
broadly accessible can we make geospatial analysis? When will it be
possible for a non-cartographer on their own to use maps, public geodata,
and geo-indexed private/personal data to answer a question like "Where
should I plant my garden?", "Where in the region should I live if I want to
lower my carbon footprint?", "Where should our neighborhood advocate for
adding a park, or a supermarket, or more beat cops?"... etc.

Thanks for starting the discussion!

--Andrea

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:43 AM, William J. Spat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mention of this list’s quietness got me to wondering why?****
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> My feeling is that good maps and 3d location data are in the process of
> becoming commoditised, so there’s less about which to fantasize.****
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> I mean, three-dimensional spatial data is being built out to the point
> that if it is a lasting visible structure, it’s going to be on the map.
> And we tend to fantasize about the unknown.  So what’s left about which to
> geowank?****
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> I suppose there’s a historical dimension – putting Paxton’s crystal palace
> back on the map and that kind of thing.****
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> One area that intrigues me – and probably because I know so little about
> it -  is the mapping of non-spatial data.  I mean stuff that is associated
> with a point or area, but is not itself three-dimensional in any meaningful
> sense.  ****
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> For example, I once read of a riff on  forestry software used to predict
> optimum snow conditions on ski hills.  So presumably inputs that were
> relevant to tree growth (precipitation, sunlight, slope, and so on) were
> mapped to conditions relevant to really good snow for sliding sports.  This
> might be an example –and one that has been commercialised, at least in a
> ski-hill consultancy.****
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> What else might there be?****
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> We have had wikis of crime scenes placed on maps (the crimes generally
> having occurred at a location, but not having a lasting visible structure
> {leaving aside architectural crimes ;-)}), and there are great wikis of
> transient spatial activities (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ is a
> favourite of mine)****
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> What else?****
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> I’ve fantasized about maps that input to policy decisions.  For example,
> it’s a tired (pardon the pun) saw that cyclists systematically disobey
> traffic rules.  To which, as a cyclist,  I counter that the number of
> infractions by motorists far exceeds those by cyclists since disregard for
> speed limits by motorists is endemic.  Could we map those areas of
> excessive speed as we have live maps of congestion?  Pinpoint potential
> profit centres for Treasury?****
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> I supposed the challenge is (as it was in the early days of this list)
> getting good data.  For example, I read that one good argument for the
> establishment of marine parks came from records of large fish catches after
> an exclusion zone was established for the moon shots at Cape Canaveral.***
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> And even if good data can be found and geocoded, it is not really ‘geo,’
> so perhaps harder to manage with our systems and approaches?****
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> As smartphones get more sensors, perhaps we can get them to harvest more
> data?  Or just tap into more silos of data that are already there, but not
> adequately mapped?  As we have all been turned into wardrivers by Apple and
> their ilk?****
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> I  am reminded of a short story from Peter Carey’s “Fat Man in history”.
> But that’s another topic for discussion….****
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Anselm Hook
> *Sent:* 12-Jan-12 09:20
> *To:* S. E.
> *Cc:* geowanking
> *Subject:* Re: [Geowanking] When and Where is WhereCamp SF/Bay Area?****
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> I'm not doing it this year but Steve C say's he'll pick it up - looking
> forward to attending :-)****
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM, S. E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:****
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> I have not seen this posted and the list has been awful quiet (aside from
> LinkedIn requests ;)****
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> O'Reilly's Where conference is 4/2-4, so I imagine it will be 3/31-4/1 or
> 4/8-9, but would be great to know now for scheduling.****
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> Looking forward to it!****
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