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Re: OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) David Shaw Thu Nov 08 12:06:23 2007
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:46:49AM -0800, Jon Callas wrote: > > When we started the working group, there were many things that I > thought would be great to "fix." That included OpenPGP CFB. These > days, I care a lot less. > > The reason is that while the OpenPGP CFB is eccentric, it's not > wrong. CFB itself has a parallelism with CBC. Just about every thing > you can say about CFB has a parallel thing you can say about CBC. If > you want real change, you'd want to do something else, which has a > different set of issues. > > If we put in some new mode, the implementations will have to support > them both for years. If a major or quasi-major implementation balks, > then that time increases. That increases code size and complexity, > and that decreases security. > > Unless a mode change is folded in with a compelling other reason, I > don't see it's worth the bother. Every system has warts. This is not > a large one. Exactly. That's why I say that *if* we do this, we should do it as part of V5 keys. It's not important enough to do on its own. I should add that I'm not exactly eager to go down the V5 keys path without a good reason either. It would be nice to tweak some V4 details (fingerprints being SHA-1), but I don't think those details are compelling enough to justify a V5 by themselves. David
- Re: Next Steps (was Re: RFC 4880 on OpenPGP Message Format), (continued)
- Re: Next Steps (was Re: RFC 4880 on OpenPGP Message Format) Daniel A. Nagy 2007/11/08
- Re: Next Steps (was Re: RFC 4880 on OpenPGP Message Format) Ian G 2007/11/08
- Re: Next Steps Werner Koch 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Ian G 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Jon Callas 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Werner Koch 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Jon Callas 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Derek Atkins 2007/11/09
- OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) David Shaw 2007/11/08
- Re: OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) Jon Callas 2007/11/08
- Re: OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) David Shaw 2007/11/08 <=
- Re: OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) Jon Callas 2007/11/08
- Re: OpenPGP CFB mode (was Re: Next Steps) Marko Kreen 2007/11/08
- Re: OpenPGP CFB mode Werner Koch 2007/11/08
- Re: Next Steps Daniel A. Nagy 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Derek Atkins 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Ian G 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Werner Koch 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Ben Laurie 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps David Shaw 2007/11/09
- Re: Next Steps Derek Atkins 2007/11/09