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Re: Help promoting Ubuntu Global Jam Leandro Gómez Mon Sep 21 14:01:23 2009

2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >
> > The attribution information is included in the source files.
>
> Upon closer inspection, I see that now.
> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should
> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue.
>

Yes, you're right...my mistake :)


> >
> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as simple
> as
> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I weren't I
> > would always think the same way:
>
> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed
> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out
> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using
> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That
> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some
> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood
> the license at some point.
>

I understand the license this way:

If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need to
link to the authors site.

But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it, then
you must attribute.


>
> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people
> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others
> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to
> the whole Free Software movement?
>

I totally agree with you on this.



>
> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the author
> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the software,
> book,
> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean they
> don't
> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work.
> >
> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the copyright
> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space and
> can
> > become unhandy.
>
> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't
> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much
> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a
> harddisk.
>

Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure,
poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for it.
:)


>
> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the license,
> do
> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0.
>
> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license
> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I
> bring up this subject.
>
> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if
> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is
> solely for the author!
>

The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on the
SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current license
prevents people from using the artwork.

Cheers,



>
> Cheers
> Søren
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >>
> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe
> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for
> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed it?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Søren
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> Søren
> >> >>
> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >     Corrales to weave his magic? ;-)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could you ask
> >> >> >> > Byron
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a couple
> of
> >> >> >> > web
> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them to
> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Done! :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *
> >> >> >>     Jono
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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> >> >> >> Ubuntu Community Manager
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> >> >> >>
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