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Re: 3rd Party Polling Sites David Rubin Sat Oct 08 13:00:49 2011

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Chuck Frain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Oct 2011, Daniel Holbach wrote:
>
> > Hello Chuck,
> >
> > Am 07.10.2011 14:30, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > ... and now Daniel's CC voting email.
> > >
> > > The person was concerned because their email is not visible on their
> > > Ubuntu member page yet a third party service somehow, presumably the
> > > Canonical employees above, gave it out. The person feels their trust
> was
> > > breached as they cannot find where it is allowed in any terms on the
> > > member pages. If it is there, can someone provide me a link to forward?
> >
> > This does not have anything to do with being a Canonical employee. As a
> > member of the CC I was tasked to organise the election. I used the
> > information about email addresses of all members of ~ubuntumembers in
> > Launchpad.
> >
> > We have used the CIVS service in the past, because it allows us to use
> > the Condorcet method of voting, something that is not available in
> > Launchpad. This was not a topic of contention for any of the elections
> > we used in the past.
> >
> >
> > I checked the security & privacy FAQ before and was quite happy to hear
> > that http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/sec_priv.html says:
> >
> >  - "E-mail addresses of voters are erased immediately after the
> >     election begins."
> >  - "The identity of a voter is known only to the election supervisor
> >     and the individual voter. The election supervisor knows how many
> >     voters cast votes, but has no other information about whether or
> >     how a given voter voted."
> >
> > We need a good way to organise our elections, so if you have a better
> > suggestion on how we organise them, I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Have a great day,
> >  Daniel
> >
>
> Daniel,
>
> This response is good to hear, but does not answer the question that was
> asked by the member. Where in the Ubuntu terms and conditions does it
> provide for non-visible email addresses to be supplied to a third party?
>
> Going to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers does not provide any email
> information unless you are logged in.
>
> If it was a Canonical thing or not, both you and Jono (and presumably
> the person who sent the email with his content) are Canonical employees
> and you are the ones who provided the email addresses to the third
> parties from what can be told by the announcements.
>
> I'll take your word that the service was used in the past without
> complaint. However today there was a complaint from someone that should
> be addressed.
>
>
AFAIK The email addresses that were used were their @ubuntu.com email
addresses which are technically public knowledge if you have an LP account.

So I can't see how any ones private and personal information was given out.

As for the 3rd party voting system, I am with Daniel on this one we have
used them in the past and although using 3rd parties aren't ideal their
software is opensource so it might be better in up coming elections to host
our own version of it?

David

PS: I see this as one of the requirements of being and @ubuntumember
participating in elections and other votes that happen very rarely.
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