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Re: [Mason] www.masonhq.com back to work? Bill Walz Fri Feb 10 22:00:18 2012

Hi all. Mason 1 has paid my bills for over 7 years plus. It is amazing. 
I get what he is saying. But all Linux distributions now support it. 
gone are are the days of libapreq2 pain. I guess what I am trying to say 
is that I have many many components that would help folks. In fact now I 
am jQuery and jqGrid focused I have them them as well. Serverd up 
through Mason. But know way to give back. Mason 1 is shunned but why? 
Mason2 is a concept. I deal with production.

In the real world Mason 2 is not ready and I am not ready to switch. I 
am hoping. I have so much to give back to working with Mason 1 but have 
no means to do so. Mason has always been amazing. But I have not jumped 
on the new 2 bandwagon. I know it will evolve, but at the moment I need 
production.

Sorry for rambling. Mason has been my life for years. It is amazing. 
Have not taken Mason 2 seriously yet.

-Bill

On 02/10/2012 08:02 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012, Jonathan Swartz wrote:
>
>> I like the wiki idea very much in principle - it's why I started the masonhq 
>> wiki years
>> ago. The reason it was disabled was because of the constant spam (including 
>> obnoxious porn
>> spam) - it was too much effort to keep up with. If someone has a good 
>> solution to this, or
>> is willing to volunteer to keep a wiki clean :), I'm all ears. The best 
>> defense against
>> wiki spam is a sufficient audience mass, and unfortunately Mason HQ fell 
>> below that.
> Github offers a wiki as part of a project. Why not use that?
>
> I imagine their spam detection is much better than anything we ever
> could've done on our own with Mason HQ.
>
>> I'm interested in creating the most powerful Perl templating framework that 
>> I can, even if
>> that means having dependencies like Moose and requiring a little extra 
>> startup time.
>> I have not considered Mouse support although I suppose it is a possibility 
>> down the line.
>> I'm really hoping that Moose will gradually get faster to the point where 
>> this won't matter. :)
> Me too!
>
> There is work on moving some of what Moose does into a core Perl 5 MOP
> (meta-object protocol). This is probably the first step towards
> significantly speeding up Moose, without requiring us Moose devs to do
> absolutely insane things. If we're lucky, MOP v1 will be in Perl 5.18, but
> I'm not really working on the MOP stuff, so don't quote me.
>
>> I've little interest in trying to make Mason 2 "lightweight" enough for 
>> standard CGI.
>> Honestly given the ready availability of mod_perl, FastCGI, and Starman, I 
>> don't
>> understand why standard CGI is even considered a viable option anymore (but 
>> I'm sure
>> diehard CGI fans will yell at me for saying this).
> I need to deply on my $4 per century hosting, but I need to use all the
> latest software, and I expect everything to just work even though I can't
> install CPAN modules, get a shell, or use more than 8MB of memory.
>
> Of course, while I joke, this is exactly why PHP has been so insanely
> popular, so there's a lot to be said for actually making this work.
>
>
> -dave
>
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