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Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling JMB Fri Dec 10 23:00:09 2010

Not much chance of that happening...they'd never catch him :-))
JMB.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Brundage 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling


    
  Just hope and pray that you don't end up in a nursing home where I work 
someday. LOL

  --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Leonard theFast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  From: Leonard theFast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 5:37 PM

  *Hey Tim,
  You're doing the elder abuse thing again! ;-)
  Cheers,
  LtF
  *
  On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Tim Brundage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

  >
  >
  > But it's fun to watch the elderly play with new technology. LMMFAO
  >
  >
  > --- On Fri, 12/10/10, JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > wrote:
  >
  > From: JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 8:54 AM
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Naaaar, don't think so.....he already said he'd smoke em both on his '89
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Tim Brundage
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:56 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  >
  > OK let's get him on both and see what he thinks. I know he'd be a willing
  > participant. LMAO
  >
  > --- On Thu, 12/9/10, JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > wrote:
  >
  > From: JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 6:19 PM
  >
  > That's a 17% crank hp loss to the transmission / shaft drive...about
  > normal. When it comes to the 1/4 mile sprint, there are other factors too,
  > including weight distribution, balance, traction and how each configuration
  > puts the power to the ground. Inspite of it's lower power to weight ratio, I
  > suspect the 'Max will be hard to catch for the first 100 yards @ 2.66 secs /
  > 0 -100 kmph. Have to get LtF on board.
  > JMB
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Tim Brundage
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:00 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  >
  > I don't know what the Duc's rear wheel rate is but on The Vmax guru site,
  > the max had 167hp at the rear wheel but I do agree with the whole weight to
  > HP deal, but I'm into drag racing too. Also the centrifugal forces will make
  > a difference if you're running the twisties.
  >
  > --- On Thu, 12/9/10, JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > wrote:
  >
  > From: JMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jmbrookes%40westnet.com.au>>
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 8:40 AM
  >
  > You might want to think a bit about what you said. The Gen II is 100 kg
  > heavier than the Ducati and that's a lot of iron to haul. To compensate for
  > this the Vmax only has an additional 40 hp.( The Ducati rates 1.3kg/hp and
  > the Vmax is 1.55kg/hp both rated at the crank, not the back wheel.) The Duc
  > is chain drive so 95% of the crank hp gets to the back wheel whilst the Vmax
  > is shaft drive which robs the engine of (probably) 15-20 % of the rated
  > (crank) hp. It will be interesting to see how they stack up.
  > JMB
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Rudy Mercer
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:33 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  >
  > I would be willing to test that theory, it may be lighter but the MAX has
  > almost 40 more hrsepower and and 25ft/lbs more torque, yes it heavier but it
  > also has alot more power!
  >
  > --- On Wed, 12/8/10, vmaxman99 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<vmaxman99%40yahoo.com>>
  > wrote:
  >
  > From: vmaxman99 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxman99%40yahoo.com>>
  > Subject: [vmaxtech] Re: Ducati Diavel Styling
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>
  > Received: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:36 PM
  >
  > Ducati says it is a direct competition to the GenII Vmax. Crunching the
  > numbers, it should blow the Gen II into the weeds.
  > Mike
  >
  > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <vmaxtech%40yahoogroups.com>, Alfred
  > Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >
  > > * Leonard Ochs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [101207 21:17] wrote:
  > > > Is it just me or does it appear to others that Ducati has ripped off
  > > > styling cues from the Gen2 Max for their new 2011 Cruiser bike, the
  > > > Diavel? Especially the r/h side view. Trellis framework only obvious
  > > > Ducati feature.
  > > >
  > > >
  > http://www.gizmag.com/ducati-diavel-2011-1200cc-cruiser-power/17031/pict\
  >  <http://www.gizmag.com/ducati-diavel-2011-1200cc-cruiser-power/17031/pict>>
  > > ure/124918/
  > >
  > > Yeah, it's basically what the gen2 should have been:
  > >
  > > 162bhp, 94lb/ft of torque and weighing just 210kg/463lbs (dry)
  > >
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