quicktime-java

I agree with Chris with one caveat.  It's perfectly reasonable for Apple to 
stop giving away as powerful a technology as QT if it chooses to for business 
or technical reasons.  Having said that, the Java support, at least for 
desktop/Swing, is still lagging on the Mac.  The rendering pipeline alone is 
quite shocking and requires JOGL for anything remoetly challenging.  The is in 
no small part to the lagging 1.6 support.  Apple certainly hasn't done much to 
champion Java and Jobs' own words to the effect of "Java is dead" belie the 
point.

--Alex

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Chris Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Chris Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Apple's gradual withdrawal from Java" (was: Re: legal pixel formats 
for QDGraphics)
To: "Jason Proctor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 7:01 AM

On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Jason Proctor wrote:
also yes it looks like QTJ is soon going to be another victim of Apple's 
gradual withdrawal from Java, which is a massive own goal IMHO. the QTJ 
component of this system is not expected to be long-lived (thankfully).

I disagree with the way you're coloring that statement.  IMHO, it's more valid 
to say that QTJ is a victim of Apple's gradual withdrawal from Carbon.  QTJ is 
a set of OO bindings around the classic, procedural C QuickTime API, which is 
clearly headed for obsolescence (already can't run in 64-bit mode, for example).
If you want to complain that Apple hasn't provided a Java wrapper around  the 
modern QTKit API, fine, but do try to think about how it would be in Apple's 
best interest to do so.  Considering the poor and declining state of desktop 
Java, and Sun's stated intent to develop a new cross-platform media API of its 
own (Java Media Components, an offshoot of JavaFX), I think Apple's disinterest 
in the topic is entirely understandable.  They don't, and shouldn't, have a dog 
in this fight.
IMHO, Java media support should be Sun's problem, not Apple's, if they have any 
serious interest in promoting Java as a desktop platform.  Unfortunately, Sun 
has little competence, experience, credibility, talent, or passion when it 
comes to media, so I don't expect much from JMC.
--Chris
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