quicktime-java

I'd be impressed if you have someone's ear.  Tony Wyant posted on the JMF list 
two years ago asking for input, didn't seem to go anywhere.  Maybe you have 
more pull.

What I'd like, personally, froma JMF-like implementation in no particular order:

- Cross platform codec access.  On Windows, that means accessing anything 
available through DirectShow.  On the Mac, it means Quicktime.  So WMV, mp4, 
mp3, etc... become available, not just on2's proprietary codec.
 - Access to sysem level encoders as per above.
- Pixel level access to media, ie. frame grabbing.
- A Swing-compliant rendering pipeline enabling composting and overlay, HUD, 
etc...
- An editing suite a la QTJ.  This is the least likely to happen and the 
hardest to implement, but, hey, as long as we're making our wishlists.

So, go ahead anT, talk to the people and get back to us on when any of this 
will be implemented.

Thanks.


--- On Sun, 10/26/08, anthony rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: anthony rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Apple's gradual withdrawal from Java" (was: Re: legal pixel 
formats for QDGraphics)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Chris Adamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
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Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 5:47 AM


Apple / Java / QTJ - come on cheer up!
I'm at Sun know and i know all the media lot- what shall i tell them we need? i 
know all my needs and yep there as strong as when we started playing in QTJ 
development land all them moons ago :)
aNt - inside Sun.
On 15 Oct 2008, at 17:51, Alex Shaykevich wrote:
I think we all want something for nothing, ie. QTJ, but it's just not in the 
cards.  I don't see how Apple stands to make any money on it or why it would be 
good for its core business.  They'll keep iTunes alive by closing up the code 
and gradually switching to a proprietary stack and cut 3rd party developers 
loose.  It's a perfectly reasonable position, just not one that's good for 
developers looking for a freebie.  I will sorely miss QTJ but have already 
ported a good number of my projects to DSJ with good results.  It's not free 
for commercial use.  Oh well.

Perhaps if QTJ had been available for commercial licensing, we would have a 
more robust and longterm product.  

--Alex

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Peter Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Peter Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Apple's gradual withdrawal from Java" (was: Re: legal pixel 
formats for QDGraphics)
To: "Chris Adamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9:34 AM

> Apple may not really be interested in you writing for non-Mac platforms. 
And that
> really can't be a surprise, right?

What about Apple writing for non-Mac platforms ?
Where, for example, does that leave the Windows versions of QuickTime
and iTunes ?

It seems that Apple may have decided that there's neither value nor
benefit in developing or supporting multi-platform media technology,
leaving the likes of Adobe and Microsoft with an open field. I believe
that is a huge strategic mistake. QuickTime was (and, in some areas,
still is) ahead of the game but Apple
 have so publicly neglected it's
too late to save. I suppose the only consolation is that, unlike
OpenDoc, only a few misguided developers will lose out when Steve
"puts a bullet through the head of QuickTime"...

Peter


2008/10/15 Chris Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Oct 15, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Paul Loy wrote:
>
>> This is exactly why Apple should still be bothered about Java Media
>> Support. None of us who have worked with QTJ expect much, if anything,
from
>> Sun. We all depend on Apple. And that's why it cuts so deep that
Apple can't
>> even be bothered to tell us what's going to happen to QTJ or what
we can
>> expect in the future. Apple are so good about seeding developers in
other
>> areas. Why not here too?
>
> I hope this doesn't turn into a pissing match, but I guess I see no
answer
> as an answer: QTJ is so
 dead to Apple that they don't even indulge the
> topic.  They've been pretty clear at how you're supposed to write
a Mac
> media app going forward: use QTKit, or Core Audio/Video if working at that
> level makes more sense for you.  That doesn't address how you write a
> cross-platform media app, but again, maybe that silence is the point:
Apple
> may not really be interested in you writing for non-Mac platforms.  And
that
> really can't be a surprise, right?
>
> There's also a difference in the information available to developers
who
> went to WWDC versus those who didn't, but of course, that's NDA.
>
> --Chris
>
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